Warning! This will be a VO rates rant, something I don’t do much of but, as one the Voiceover industry’s foremost rates experts, I feel compelled to do so.
More and more, we’ve seen Commercial VO rates plummet. The thought is that they’ve hit the bottom of the well, but just when we think that worse rates come.
We continually see the neglect and abuse of talent and their value from the very people who are supposed to be in our corner and fighting for us – agents and casting directors.
Let’s be clear, this doesn’t apply universally, but in the past couple of years, we all check castings to see how bad the rate is going to be. It’s disheartening, especially when it feels like certain casting companies have doubled down in this regard.
Frankly, I’m sick and tired of seeing insulting rates being offered so multi-billion-dollar corporations can use our talent to make millions of dollars.
I know, “then just don’t audition”. Well, that’s not the answer nor should it be suggested. The fact that the answer to trying to combat abusive rates and hold people’s feet to the fire is to ignore the issue and pretend it doesn’t exist, is aggravating. We saw how that worked this year…
This is why non-union Commercial VO is dying and why I don’t audition as much anymore. Is it really worth the time and effort just to support atrocious rates (more and more of in-perpituity), giving clients permission to continue the abuse? Talent have NO voice in this fight, and we rely on our agents and casting directors to hold up fair rates for our industry, and they’re failing us. Sending out jobs that come with abusive rates just supports those rates from continuing.
I understand these parties have difficult jobs and are in difficult positions balancing talent and clients, but at what long-term cost? As business owners, voice talent are taught to stand up for their value, learn to say no, and respect the craft. So why are we the only one’s doing so?
“Why don’t you just join the Union?”. If that were a realistic option for the overwhelming majority of voice actors, who are non-union, then sure. But it’s not. At least 80% of VO work is non-union and for many, joining the union doesn’t make sense for their business. And what if we all did? There wouldn’t be enough work to support us.
So, what’s the solution? Stand up, say no, tell your agents, tell casting directors, you refuse to audition for jobs that have predatory rates. If enough people stand up to this, changes will have to be made. We are THE BEST IN THE WORLD, and we should be paid fairly. Don’t be desperate to work, the work will come. Value your talent and worth more than the opportunity to work. Market your business, find your way into non-broadcast work where the money is good, and you can control your destiny. If the reasoning is “it’s an effect of supply and demand”, demand they find their supply somewhere else.
I know I may get some flak for writing this, but I don’t really care at this point. I want to work with people in this industry that stand with talent and support our right to fair rates. This may be an oversimplification, but from the talent perspective, this is what we see. I’ve offered to host a panel at VO ATL bringing in all parties; agents, casting directors, buyers, etc so talent can understand the factors that are going into budgets and why they keep going down but was rejected, twice.
I use this analogy all the time: If Coca-Cola didn’t know their cost for aluminum, they would be in trouble. We deserve to understand the reasons why our livelihood gets determined by people trying to make more profit and reduce costs to get bonuses.
This isn’t just about money. This is about respect, talent value, and the future of Commercial VO for voice talent.
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Bruce Barnard says
I agree wholeheartedly!
Bob Tracey says
Well said. Living in cap·i·tal·ism
/ˈkapədlˌizəm/
noun, an economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state… is how things work here. So, if all working are not organized, like in a union, or controls put in place by the state, like NLRA vs ‘Right To Work’ laws, there will always be a few who destroy the benefit of the many. When buying groceries or a new pair of, not many say; “I want to buy so migrants get a Living Wage!”. Sadly in capitalism ‘Supply and Demand’ rules. If the Supply of Cheap Labor is Large the Demand for Better Wages will be Low to produce cheap goods. It’s why I went union years ago, but because I haven’t booked a VO in 2.5 years. It’s a complex economic formula that even the most advanced economists cannot solve (or choose not to). Sadly many live by; “I got mine, you get yours!”. Thankfully when I worked non-union most of my regulars paid a living wage. Unless there is some kind of work stoppage, which I don’t see because agency guys will just VO until it’s over, and with AI delivering VO now (though poorly) but give it a few years and no one will know the difference, maybe VO as a thing is going the way of buggy wip makers after Henry Ford rolled out the Model T for $700. Unless we can ‘sell’ producers and those hiring talent on the “common good” idea, which I think many are open too, it’s almost impossible. When you spend your money don’t you want the most for the least? I think it’s just the ways humans are. It takes a lot of un-learning to say: “I’ll pay more if it truly benefits others!”. Plus, keep in mind many offering low VO wages are triple keystoning to their clients, who believe talent are getting better wages, an old agency gimmick. One client called me direct to ask if I was really charging $1,620.00 for one radio VO? I exclaimed “Hell no… but I wish I was!”. Their agency was marking up my rate and most clients never see it on their itemized invoices. Until humans are willing to be more human, I don’t see a change… but I hope so. Be well.
Kristin Aikin Salada says
Thanks for your perspective and wisdom!
David Toback says
My pleasure. Thanks for reading!!
Joshua Alexander says
Well said, David. No flak from me. 🙂
David Toback says
Appreciate it 🙂
Tanya Buchanan says
Amen David! I will continue to fight the good fight but ultimately until more talent say no… it’s all for naught. I can’t tell you how many talent I know that say what you’re saying but quietly take these low paying jobs and rates. We need more talent to not just talk the talk but also walk the walk or the long term outlook for this industry is bleak.
David Toback says
Agreed and thank you! I know you’re always fighting for us!! It can be a tough line to walk but, we need to not work for rates we don’t believe are fair. We’re just dooming ourselves. I think more and more emphasis will move to non-broadcast work.